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“We started a project trying to decode that. Farmers have now sent us pictures of well over 1,000 tags which have the variety names as well as the trade names. We then cross match all of those variety names and tell each of those members if they are paying in fact planting a duplicate or the same seed twice,” Baron says.

Does the phrase “Same seed different bag” sound familiar? It’s something that’s frustrated farmers for years. Companies selling seed under different brand names has been a common practice in the seed industry.

Relabeling is something that’s irritated farmers for a very long time and turns out for a very good reason.

Labeling laws require seed companies to provide the variety identity on the seed bag tag itself. But it is different from the marketed brand name. However, it sometimes can be difficult for farmers to match which seeds are the same as others. This is a problem Charles Baron with Farmers Business Network calls Seed Relabeling.

“We found an instance where one brand was relabeling with another in the same state, in the state of Indiana for example, but charging $60 a bag less. That was quite shocking because those farmers were effectively overpaying by almost $30 an acre once you work the math out which is a lot of money to be overpaying for the same genetics from a different branding,” Baron says.

Such a repository would include a record of which firm originated the variety and varietal characteristics.

The average cost difference between the two in the same state? $68 a bag!

FBN found prices between brands of the same seed variety may differ significantly.

Did you know the exact same seed can be sold under two names?

In the seed industry, variety and brand definitions differ. A variety’s originator assigns the variety a name, but different brand names are used by the firm and by the companies to which it may license the variety. In many cases, both brand and variety name appear on the seed tag. In many company marketing efforts, though, only the brand name is discussed.

ecwis – 2/4/2015 15:01

Prices aren’t the only factor that can differ between seed varieties sharing the same genetics. The Farmers Business Network (FBN) analysis found that when multiple brands sell the same variety, relative maturities differ 55% of the time.

Just had a seed salesman stop in .Told me a lot of stein corn is the same as channel.. R9313 is channel 197-31 was one example. Also Stein bean 19RA02 is the same as Asgrow1931 and Channel1900 and are quite a bit cheaper in a stein bag. Is there any validity to this. Not looking for opinions, just any factual data .. Looking for options as I haven’t purchased any seed yet. Thanks for any input .

ecwis – 2/4/2015 15:01

Just had a seed salesman stop in .Told me a lot of stein corn is the same as channel.. R9313 is channel 197-31 was one example. Also Stein bean 19RA02 is the same as Asgrow1931 and Channel1900 and are quite a bit cheaper in a stein bag. Is there any validity to this. Not looking for opinions, just any factual data .. Looking for options as I haven’t purchased any seed yet. Thanks for any input .

For corn, the breeding group at Stine is pretty meager, so it is likely a bunch of germplasm is coming from the same place the traits are coming from.

Just had a seed salesman stop in .Told me a lot of stein corn is the same as channel.. R9313 is channel 197-31 was one example. Also Stein bean 19RA02 is the same as Asgrow1931 and Channel1900 and are quite a bit cheaper in a stein bag. Is there any validity to this. Not looking for opinions, just any factual data .. Looking for options as I haven’t purchased any seed yet. Thanks for any input .

Buck S – 2/4/2015 18:24

ecwis – 2/4/2015 15:01

What is the variety code on the Stine bag for R9313. 197-31 is 1036682 and is one of the most piss poor, biggest brittle snap piece of garbage that I have ever come across. You better get a five gallon pale of ky jelly if you are gonna plant that garbage cause your gonna take it in the shorts. Hopefully the Stine guys will stand behind it for you when you are vacuuming it off the field.